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A double entendre for the masses.
This is the working story of my inevitably leaving the borough with whom I've been in an abusive relationship for the last 32 years. It starts, however, with a break up of another sort.....
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great piece i really enjoyed reading it and i agree. Being from queens i understand what u mean exactly i dont try to b a new yorker i just am its the way i do things.
ReplyDeletei hate hipsters too... but you just claim the ultimative coolness... u shiiitt.. you're sooo tough... pathetic!!
ReplyDeleteI love the look on a hipster, suburban stringbean's face when I tell them about all the Johnny Thunders shows I saw. Priceless. Then I knock the fedora off their greasy head. Nuff said.
ReplyDeleteI don't even think I really understand what you're saying, Zuppi....??
ReplyDeleteNo doubt those shitheads are everywhere. Retards R Us. I grew up with 80s tunes, they were spigots. Fucking die already.
ReplyDeleteI loved this piece. I dont know you, but i already know I like you... a lot. The anger and hatred I feel when I see these people is astronomical. How dare they act and look poor and live in some of the most expensive parts of bk? Are they ashamed of money? Does anyone else think that living a life based on aesthetics is pathetic or is it just me? Dang I hate these modern day hippies.
ReplyDeleteThis was a realization that I had come to when I went to Art School at Pratt Institute. I truly believed that I would learn the classical arts and study with masters. It was anything but that. It was basically an overpriced day care center for kids that couldn't function in polite society. To make matters worse, I was one of only a few people in the whole school who was actually from Brooklyn and I was made to feel like a social outcast because my inexpensive (last season) wardrobe came from places like Dr. Jays, Conway and other stores by the Fulton mall and 125th Street.
ReplyDeleteMy frustration with hipsters came to a head when I had gone to a dear friend's gallery show that he'd been developing for a long time. I had gotten my times mixed up and arrived 90 minutes early. The gallery had opened its doors for me because the guy at the front desk thought I was with some magazine. Failing to correct him, I went in and I had gotten to take a look around, in hindsight I was glad that I did. I went to my friend's exhibit as was blown away by what he had created, I took the opportunity to look around the rest of the gallery to see the works by all the other artists, some great, some less so, some that were just retarded. The evening started on a good note and quickly went sour when I felt and heard the rumble of what I thought was an earthquake steadily shaking its way up the building. Suddenly the door exploded open and in poured an deluge of hipsters, dweebies and waste-oids with their body odor, stupid outfits and seventh grade interpretations modern art and their irrelevant role in society. Suddenly I was trapped amidst a sea of obnoxious hipster assholes who saw the "free wine and food" announcement printed in fine type at the bottom of the invitation. My attempt to support my friend, broaden my mind and maybe find a little inspiration turned into a mission to find the door as quickly as possible to avoid having Williamsburg vomit on my sneakers.
I had grown up in NYC during the 1980s & 1990s with street art all around me and much of my art is inspired by graffiti, the lost but not forgotten rave and club culture and by the work of the masters, but never in my life have I photographed a piece of street art with the intention to sell it or display it as my own.
As you may or may not see by my comments, that my rage and hatred toward hipster culture has been a slow burn for a number of years. It seems like there needs to be a movement to counter the gangrenous cancer plague of hipster culture on the city.
@bigpoppa - I know what you're saying. It's ridiculous and I like that you asked whether or not they're ashamed of money. I think the answer to that is yes. I find many hipsters who will go out of their way to avoid putting their 'success' or affluence out there. Shit, I work hard for my nice stuff. My expensive sunglasses, purses, make up - I rock them regularly and I do so because I grew up with shit. From shit grew a flower. Word up!
ReplyDelete@Anonymous - This is typical behavior of the hipster breed. They're not at all interested in the actual appreciation of whatever art is on display. They are much more interested in the 'scene' said art attracts. They're scenesters. On a separate note, if your art is influenced by 80/90s nyc and the rave culture, I'd love to check it. Feel free to email me at brooklynbreakup@gmail.com - I'm sure i'd love it.
ReplyDeleteWhat artist used human feces over a religious work?
ReplyDeleteI'm just curious, what do you think of other photography in general? Architectural, portraits, nature, and the like?
ReplyDeleteIs a photo of a 16th century sculpture also ripping off and insulting the original creator?
Seeing as how the vast majority of photography is shooting a subject of sorts, where is the line drawn?
Hello. I am upper middle class and have used the emergency parachute for rent. I still hate these motherfuckers and value your comments. This has been brewing for a long time now (I started seeing the transformation around 1999, though it was probably earlier if you actually lived there), and was hoping someone would point it out. Discuss as well how when they say the word Brooklyn there is always some weird ass emphasis on it.
ReplyDelete@anonymous 1: I stand corrected, it was actually cow dung. There are various works which were produced using human fecal matter but none that i know of off hand which were combined with a religious piece.
ReplyDelete@ anonymous 2: - Great question. No, I don't think it's even remotely the same when someone photographs architecture, a structure, landscape, or general portrait. Firstly, portraiture in of itself is not really theft of anything, except maybe a part of the subjects soul (you've heard that old saying?) - And photographing a structure is often done so from different angles and the likes.
My gripe is not necessarily with the idea of photographing something and 'calling it your own', but it is more so with the photography of a cultural icon that, at least in BK, is representative of urban-living and then calling it your own when, in all reality, you have no fucking clue what urban living is about.
These hipsters tote their cameras to spots - stand on a safe haven to snag their shot, press a button, take it home and touch up the color and balance in GIMP and call it their art. There is a raw talent in the creation of these street-art pieces- and the snapping of a photograph is not necessarily 'creation' in my opinion. Furthermore, to attempt to represent a genre of art that has for a very long time been synonymous with the vandals lifestyle, when you're a rich kid from the suburbs of Michigan who has no inclination of what it is to be 'vandal', is sickening.
@DT I think the emphasis is born from the need for some sort of 'street-cred' acknowledgment they're seeking once they say "brooklyn" is where they reside.
ReplyDeletei live in san diego. without flickr, there is a lot of art that i would never see from all over the country. there are people that are on flickr who i believe do not seek anything but to be the the person that brought this art to the masses. not much different than a gallery owner.
ReplyDeletei agree with most of what you are sayin, but just wanted to bring up that point.
what if i were to take a photo of a graffiti artwork just because i thought it looked nice and just wanted to frame it in the house or something. not for art gallery but just home.
ReplyDeletealso how about taking photos of the actual action of someone tagging? would that be considered artless too?
In other words, "Get off my lawn!"
ReplyDelete@Big Ted, thanks for commenting. I think Flickr serves its purpose in that it spreads art amongst the masses as best it can, but - that's an entirely different topic of convo, I think. -
ReplyDelete@ Anonymous 1:12AM: If you are photographing art work because you like it, good for you - Post it up in your house, make a 10' wide wall mural of it if you'd like... just don't sign your name at the bottom of the art and call it your own. As for someone tagging being artless? I suppose the answer to that is in the eye of the viewer of said art.
Flogging the dead hipster, are we? Grow the fuck up and get over your own insecurities. You're what - 32, right?
ReplyDeleteBrooklyn is not the center of the universe (I live here too) and you are not its cultural correctness ambassador or arbiter of anything.
Better focus your anger and "skillz" on something more positive. Move to Newark.
What does my being 32 years old have to do with anything discussed here? As for my insecurites, they do not factor into my opinion on hipsters. I'm secure in the fact that I grew up in a Brooklyn that is being emulated today in a manner as such that is meant to glorify an impovershed lifestyle. I have the right to a loud opinion on this - and if there is anger behind my words, then good because it means my distaste for their behavior is being expressed the way i want it to.
ReplyDeleteI don't claim to be the ambassador of anything, I'm just a Brooklyn girl expressing her opinion- skills or no skills, it bees that way sometimes.
Disclosure: I grew up in the suburbs, live in an expensive neighborhood in a converted loft, have a job in IT, ride a bicycle, go to north BK art-y loft parties and wear tight jeans.
ReplyDeleteSure, pretentious people are annoying. You can find them in Brooklyn loft parties with tight jeans or in Chelsea galleries in suits. And in outer borough working class neighborhoods.
Regarding the photography situation, I agree with you. That issue has been a big can of worms in art for a long time. See Warhol, Litchenstein, Duchamp, Dr. Dre sampling George Clinton, et cetera.
Be careful about judging books by their covers. Some of those disheveled bearded people in Williamsburg are very talented and down to Earth folks.
If someone is an amazing woodworker, painter, metal worker or chef, do you really care how they dress? Judging people on their clothes is shallow. They make you miss out on friendships that might surprise you.
New York City is many things to many people. When my grandparents immigrated to Queens, lots of people told them to "Go the fuck home". I could never do that to someone else.
Life is much richer when you try to find the good in people rather than hating them because of where they're from or how they dress.
@Anonymous.. You're right, life is much richer when you try to find the good in people and I have, a number of times, tried to give many hipstery types the benefit of the doubt only to be disappointed. Hate is a bad word... and I don't hate hipsters, or anyone for that matter -My dislike for the stereotypical hipster doesn't have much to do with their clothing or their look but everything to do with the manner in which they choose to glam up poverty. I threw in the clothing remarks and various other physical description things just because once the blood gets flowing, the blood gets flowing but really it's all about the idea of being something you're not and hipsters are not poor, not from the ghetto, and not 'street'.
ReplyDeletePS.. I also agree that there are plenty of disheveled folks out there w/ tons of talent.. please see my 'brooklyn unite' posting if you haven't already read it.
ReplyDeletetis true, a true brooklynite can often be distinguished simply though their demeanor. williamsburg is now vile... a minimannhattan. a highly concentrated manhattan-extract poured into my brroklyn chowder(if that makes ant sense haaha). i refuse to enter "the berg," and when i find my way there must first be in the right mood for wrenching fitts of chunder.
ReplyDeleteGuess what?
Oh no! All of a sudden my neighborhood is gentrified, my scummy friends can't afford the rent and everyone is younger and more successful than I am!
ReplyDeleteof all places in the world, new york goes to show urban culture is not synonymous with this hard knock, street-hustling lifestyle you have been encapsulating it by... the whole graffiti and hip hop scene, a lot of the stuff that came out of 80s and even before, 70s new york, that spawned all the street culture we have today, yes that came out of poverty and dereliction and desperation, but hip hop, urban culture, and street culture have long long since been sold, commodified, globalized, (and may i say gentrified?). look at the millions of high-end street labels there are out there today that have been engendered by street culture... there was none of that back then. to be street meant to be a broke motherfucker, to shop at budget stores and wear whatever shit you could afford and rock it (not even attempt to make it look baller). look to the street artists of today who have a name for themselves, who are famous and now recognized as legitimate artists, whose works are now commodities. the most well-known street artists have shit up all over the world--is that 'street' in the hood sense? to live in different cities around the world and just be constantly hopping on planes, flying from country to country to lay your shit down? yes we treasure roots, but 'street' and urban culture ain't what it was. you can recognize the contemporary makeup of urban culture as legitimate or not, but thats a whole nother issue
ReplyDeletei also think its funny that you embody all these people you see under one umbrella term, the grand undefined. i totally understand it, i know well that particular strain of brooklynite, but that word, i think, is just tired as fuck. as i've heard, 'you hate hipsters? oh, well, you must be a hipster..'
and i do think there are artistic ways to photograph graffiti, in documenting the streets and urban spaces it can be a crucial element or device
of course theres a difference between being just a straight documentarian, and giving your own angle on the space that graffiti inhabits in the urban environment and culture
the grafitti artist has his place and role, and the photographer has his.
its easy to generalize everything when youre pissed.. i get the message but can't really respect it because of the way it's presented--i can point out a million flaws in your arguments..... 'hipsters are fake artists and this is why'??? you're shitting me right.
@Anonymous - I can totally see what you're saying.. - Matter of fact, I am happy I received both negative and positive criticsm on this post as it opened my eyes to the fact that I really did do a poor job of supporting my disdain for hipsters in this particular post. That said, I'm going to work on something a bit more structured and re-publish accordingly.
ReplyDeleteim not a hipster but i am a photographer and you come off pretty crybabyish in this piece. if i see something/someone i find interesting i shoot it. sorry that hurts your feelings. if you dont like it dont look at it. why all the hate?
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